Posted by: b12dreamer | January 4, 2008

How to make a Dream more Vivid: The true B6 story

This is not an article on how to increase vividness in a lucid dream. That’ll come later. This is an article on how to generally have more vivid dreams, lucid or not. You haven’t experienced anything until you’ve experienced a truly vivid dream. You remember that dream you had last night? It probably looked like this:

notvivid

That’s not cool. Look at how much fun those ladies are having, and you can’t see anything! Well, follow my advice and your next dream will look like this:

vivid

Now that’s more like it, right? The answer is really simple, and it’s been stated many times before: Vitamin B6, AKA Pyridoxine. But that’s not the full answer.

Vitamin B6 is part of the Vitamin B complex. It’s important for brain and nerve function. It also helps the body break down proteins and sugars (namely glucose) and promotes red blood cell production. For normal function, you need about 1.3mg of Vitamin B6 every day, and you usually get that much through the foods that you eat.

For a great vivid dream, you should take about 250mg of Vitamin B6. You can find a bunch of B6 and B complex suppliments at pharmacies, nutrition stores, any place you can get vitamins.
I don’t want suppliments, what foods have B6? Bananas, oranges, fish, liver, beans, nuts, eggs, chicken, carrots, spinach, and other healthy foods like that.
Any bad news? Yes. At a repeated dose of 200mg, you start not to feel so good — tingling in the hands and feet, loss of sensation in the legs, some other bad stuff…
What? You said i need 250mg? Yes, you do. Or you could skip that advice, and i’ll tell you the REAL reason Vitamin B6 works.

Tryptophan.

Tryptophan is an amino acid taken by Vitamin B6 and converted into Serotonin. Serotonin can cause extremely vivid dreams at higher levels. So the reason such a high dose of B6 is recommended for vivid dreams is that it’ll convert more tryptophan into more serotonin. But why don’t we help the process and just add in the middle man?

Why not just cut out the middle man and take Serotonin suppliments? Three words: Blood Brain Barrier. It’s a pesky thing that won’t just let things into the brain directly. Instead, Vitamin B6 and Tryptophan can be metabolized in the body and sent to the brain no problemo.

Tryptophan is found in such foods as cheddar cheese, chicken, salmon, lamb, egg, flour, white rice, and milk. Cheddar cheese has the most amount of tryptophan, and is recommended highly.

So what do I do?
You have two options: foods or suppliments. For Vitamin B6, you should get some suppliments that will provide you with about 100mg of B6 (much less than 250mg, and not dangerous!). You’re going to have a hard time eating enough oranges to get that much. Take it about an hour or two before bed. For tryptophan, you should eat some cheddar cheese (or the other foods listed) a few hours before bed, around when you’re about to take the B6.

If you’re not willing to just go out and buy suppliments, then i have advice for you. Eat a banana or two, and then sprinkle a good amount of cheddar cheese on something. Not on the banana, unless that’s your thing, it’s not really mine. Do this about an hour before bed. The next day, i’ll be surprised if I don’t see you running to your car still pulling your shirt over your head in such a hurry to get to the store.

That’ll provide you with some intense dreams! Good luck, and enjoy. Remember, work on your dream recall so you can remember these vivid dreams. Also remember to do your reality checks! Did you do one? Are you dreaming?

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  1. I thought your blog was going to be about lucid dreams when I saw the title.

    I have only knowingly had ONE: ie that I KNEW i was dreaming and could control all aspects of it. Very cool

    I have also (in long past) had dreams of waking up crashing into ceiling… is this astral projection?

    if you have any interesting answers, please comment on my “main blog” gledwood2 many thanks!

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  3. Now this is alchemy. Cheddar and bananas! I’d never have guessed.

    I’ll experiment with this promptly.

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  5. [...] a bowl with a dollop of sour cream, and enjoyed vivid dreams because of the high concentration of Vitamin B6. So neat! My supplement-happy sister had suggested I try B6 this past summer, but I forgot all [...]

  6. Gledwood i had a lucid dream after reading your comment, it was of your mom and sister man was it good

  7. Or take some 5HTP, same effect.. less touble

  8. I found your post because the other night I took some b vit liquid in water, went to bed and in the morning i was in another bed in another room in our house (i slept walked). I blamed it on the bvit liquid because the person who sold me the b vit liq told me that it can cause lucid dreams…but i dont have any recollection of walking there! Very strange!

  9. Apple Cider Vinegar!!! i swear it makes for the most vivid realistic dreams. hundreds have reported this as a “side effect” when taking it as a folk remedy for many ailments. mix 2 tablespoons in a big glass of water, it doesn’t taste the greatest so just down it. add some honey if you cant take the taste. i have taken 5-htp b complex and vitamin d all helped but ACV blows them out of the water!

  10. Just take ecstacy, and you will have very lucid dreams. Sends all the serotonin to your brain for a party.

  11. last night i had a banana before bed and had some crazy, very vivid dreams i remember them perfectly
    so i researched what foods induce dreams and this site came up

    guess it was the banana
    top site.

  12. Mix a drink of warm milk, 5-HTP, Melatonin, Cinnamon, Ground Nutmeg, Ground Cloves and Even if u dont have a lucid dream you’ll see how vlvid ur dream world is and it feels like u have more control. when i drank this i can smell and taste in my dreams and remember what i was wearing and so on, the drink may not taste so good, so add Honey. I hope ive helped :) (drink before going to sleep)

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  14. i like chicken

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  16. hmmm. after my maternal grandmother died, I dreamed I was walking in a sunny park, down a path…there was a bench on the right hand side ahead, and a lady sitting on it facing away from me, when I passed the bench I turned around to see who it was. It was my grandmother, the biggest smile ever on her face, she had one of those ‘old lady’ black purse on her lap; she said, “There you are! I’ve been wanting to talk to you!” And it scared me awake, I had goose bumps, and this makes me kinda mad, now I don’t know what she was going to say, darn it. Plus, while AWAKE, all my life, I’ve had several supernatural things happen that DIDN’T scare me, so I don’t even know why this did, except it was sort of a lucid dream, I knew in my sleep my grandmother was dead, so how could she be talking to me. Wish I knew what she was going to say.

    • Don’t freak out, but our diseased relatives and close friends can contact us in our dreams and when we are “out of body”. This has happened to me on more than one occasion. That is because when people die, the only part of them that dies is the outer shell (body), but they go on living, only on a different plane of existence known as the astral plane. If you learn to astral project or have an OOBE, you can once again make contact with your grandma and ask her what it was that she wanted to say. I hope you see her again and get to have a good chat with her. Good luck!

  17. This subject is very intersesting! If I did 5-HTP how mcuh would I take??

  18. (Sorry , I posted this also in the Galatamine choline section by mistake)

    Updates Vitamin B6

    Last night being one of my Galantamine detox nights I decided to try something new.
    I took B6 at bedtime 200mg. ( ppl say its not LD inducing but helps dream vividness and recall)

    I went to bed at 0100 and woke at 0400 after having a series of very long richly detailed complex dreams (think TV documentary / historical drama) often verging on the surreal. I went back to sleep around 0500 and continued the prevoius dreams although this time the themes very complex inter personal relationships in a high society family. No lucidity at all. But then again no dream triggers as the second section of dreams were very lifelike.

    Problem is that I woke very tired indeed – blood shot eyes. I felt the dreams started during my early deep sleep cycles and I didnt get enough quality sleep before the REM cycles.

    Next time I ‘ll try B6 with WBTB sequence and see if I still am wiped out in the morning.

    My Huperzine A has arrived.. Any one tried this? I read that it works in a similiar way to Galantamine and is not advisable to mix them..

    Next week my DMAE, Dopa mucuna, and damiana should be here….

  19. @DYLAN
    re. 5-htp , I have taken this at night with Galantamine on 2 ocasions but havent noticed anything different from the usual Galatanime LDs / projections. ( I took 100mg on each ocasion )

    Be warned that 5 htp does NOT mix well with alcohol, ie don’t try this after anight out boozing..
    Check the web for more info.

    Good luck

  20. Эту тему должен изучить каждый родитель!.

  21. I had 25g of Stilton cheese and a banana 30min before bed, had good dreams, of being in a the country side and finding a wonderfull cave that I explored………. tonight I will try more Stilton and B6. (Stilton is a blue vein cheese)

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  23. Definitely trying this..goin to go buy a 50 gallon can of b6 now :D !

  24. I recently took a 100 mg B6 supplement and it allowed me to achieve the first lucid dream I’ve had in years. I weigh 160 lbs btw. Also, I took 50 mg diphenhydramine (sleep aid) around the same time, just fyi.

    so, to anyone who says you need 250 mg, it really depends on the person.

    I’m going to take 200 mg tonight and see where it takes me.

  25. You’re and idiot, glucose is not a protein. Instead of dreaming why don’t you do some reading.

    • I must agree that glucose is not a protein, it is a sugar. But I also must say that dreaming is a second reality to some people and very many dreamers are acually avid readers. Oh, and by the way you made a spelling error. It should ‘You’re an idiot.’ not ‘You’re and idiot.’ :) Have a nice day!

  26. Comment above mentions mixing,

    “Mix a drink of warm milk, 5-HTP, Melatonin, Cinnamon, Ground Nutmeg, Ground Cloves”

    Don’t Ground Nutmeg is an MAOI and should not be mixed with 5-htp in general

    research seratonin syndrome….

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  28. ok wow it works last night i had a dream i was stuck in a gumball machine O.o

  29. Years back a Doctor prescribed me Amantadine (a parkinson drug) while trying to get my mind back to this world after years of cocaine and meth addiction. I took it for 30 days (the limit he would prescribe it to me) and had the most vivid dreams- sense of smell, sound (Real sound -not imagined),
    colors of which I did not know or had not taken the time to really look at before, and the sense of knowing I was dreaming but having some control of the direction in which it lead.
    Maybe worth looking into

  30. If you wake up in the middle of a typical sleep pattern, in the middle of the night, go to the frig and consume one or two Snickers “Fun size” candy bars stored in refrigerator is 35 – 38o F(degrees Fahrenheit) and 1.6-3.3 °C (degrees Celsius) with a nice size cold glass of milk. For a full grown man 2 or 3 bars did the trick for me, maybe a women would only need half as much.
    Vivid powerful dreams!!!, happens like the flicking of a switch!!! http://www.livestrong.com/article/320164-nutrition-information-for-fun-size-snickers-bar/

  31. was funny to discover that you are talking about the stuff i intuitively eat to strenghten my [mental] system. it tastes mor lovely and has the same effect if you replace the cheddar with cashew nuts. they’re an awesome trytophan source as well [237 mg/100g]. and they even contain B6.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashew#N.C3.A4hrwerte_der_Kerne

  32. Couldn’t you just take melatonin and be done with it? Because Seratonin is converted to Melatonin during the night

  33. August 8, 2012
    I stumbled in here googling for health benefits from bananas.
    By the way, a typical banana
    (less than 1 mg B6, just google, for example http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/fruit-nutrition-chart.html)
    does not come even near to the level of 200mg Vitamin B6 that you recommend for vivid dreaming.

    Well, you were not actually stating that a banana does contain 200 mg (or even 100mg) B6. But you are indicating that by saying the same job of causing vivid action as 200 mg B6 and tryptophan does a combination of a banana and a certain amount of a cheese.
    I admitt, a banana with 0.433mg (milligram) B6 is 433µg (microgram) B6.
    Did you possibly mix up mg and µg?
    Any advice when I am wrong?

  34. Wait, I can control my dreams most the time and I always know I’m dreaming. Is something wrong with me?

    • Nope, you’re just a lucky duck, so enjoy it. Knowing you’re dreaming in a dream is called lucid dreaming (google it!). Plenty of people try all sorts of things trying to gain lucidity in a dream, so if it happens naturally for you, congrats. Have fun honing your dream powers (such as flying, teleportation, controlling fire with your mind, and whatever else you can imagine…) Also, a tip from a fellow lucid dreamer, one way to control your dreams a little more easily is not to force it. Just expect what you want to happen without looking at it. For example, you can open a door expecting to step into a ballroom, and you probably will. It’s certainly a lot easier than standing in an empty room trying to change it into a ballroom just by thinking really hard.

  35. Tryptophan is great because it helps me to sleep at night and another great thing about it is that it is also a natural anti-depressant. ‘*,;:

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  39. When I took B6, my vivid dreams happened early in the evening, within 3 hours of going to bed, and in the morning I felt lethargic. If B6 works by promoting serotonin, why doesn’t 5-htp have the same effect? Why does it actually have the opposite effect (supposedly it suppresses REM leading to REM rebound in the morning)? My personal experience with 5-htp is that it does absolutely nothing as far as dreams are concerned but even people that claim an effect talk about the opposite of what happens with B6. So there must be something to B6 besides serotonin.

  40. Having read this I thought it was really enlightening.
    I appreciate you finding the time and effort to put this article together.
    I once again find myself spending a lot of time both
    reading and commenting. But so what, it was
    still worthwhile!

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    I’ve been trying for a while but I never seem to get there! Many thanks

  42. I didn’t used any supplements,but i dreamed lucid dream 2 times i remember…everything was just in my control..that was just amazing..now i can control my dream whenever i remember that i am dreaming in the time of my dream…

  43. Balls. Very balls. I love it.


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